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Ungovernable

Hi, sorry for the late reply, have been busy helping the team to fix some issues with the newsletter

what has been done so far:

navigation menu translated
PHP language config file updated
all sources added, including inactive ones
Turkish newsletter

in progress:

Solution to disable FullTextRSS for specific sources
Fix issues with some sources
Update articles with your translation ( @Jennifer is on it)
Modify the code to support changing the order of words for the issues you reported in the PHP lang config
Remove 10 posts limit for old sources

Our scrapers are still in the process of getting the full text of the articles from the sources.

Here is a link to the dashboard of our scrapers, it helps the team to understand what's going on in the backend. We can see the last time feeds were checked, feeds that have failed to be imported, the scraping frequency which is determined by the number of recent posts, and other information useful for debugging.
https://cron.anarsisthaberler.net/get_rss.php?limit=50

You can also force execute a specific feed and see what's happening, for example if you want to know why a post is missing from Libcom it says the article wasn't scraped because "skipped, post content too short (173 chars)"
https://cron.anarsisthaberler.net/get_rss.php?force=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpol.anarsistkutuphane.org%2Ffeed%2F19%2Ffeed

anarcha The site header (header_anarsisthaberler.net.png) needs a little change.

The current header is "Anarsist Haberler".
But it's wrong, it should be: "Anarşist Haberler".

The Turkish character "ş / Ş" is missing.

@Jennifer is the one in charge of designing the logos, and if I remember correctly the font we are using doesn't support this special character. But maybe we can just do some photoshop magic.

anarcha Center for a Stateless Society » Turkish https://c4ss.org/content/category/turkish

I'm not sure about this source, I have to do more digging but they define themselves with "market anarchism" which is a term often used by anarcho-capitalists and voluntaryism.

anarcha

The "TİŞÖRTLER"/T-SHIRTS button needs a change. This button is linked to /about-us but tittle is not "About Us". It should be "Hakkımızda".

Ungovernable

Thanks!

Jennifer

About the character "ş" in Turkish, is the thing under the "s" the same thing as the french character "ç", can we use the same charter for the S?

Ungovernable @Jennifer is the one in charge of designing the logos, and if I remember correctly the font we are using doesn't support this special character. But maybe we can just do some photoshop magic.

Yup, our font can't render this character

anarcha

@Ungovernable I'm not sure about this source, I have to do more digging but they define themselves with "market anarchism" which is a term often used by anarcho-capitalists and voluntaryism.

They describe themselves as "left market anarchist", not "market anarchist or anarcho-capitalist". Their slogan is "Markets, not capitalism". They are against capitalism, not the market, they support the left market theory from an anarchist perspective. And C4SS is already available in Anarchist Federation.

Also, their articles are already available in Anarchist Library Turkish: https://tr.anarchistlibraries.net/category/topic/sol-piyasa-anarsizmi (Left Market Anarchism)

So C4SS needs to be added.

anarcha

The sites of the organizations belonging to DAF are now in html only archive mode on https://arsiv.anarsizm.org, and most of the domainsare expired and some of under spam content. For this reason, it will not be correct to add these sites.

Example: https://www.anarsisthaberler.net/author/devrimcianaristfaaliyet/ all of these text are spam.

You should remove:

Anarşist Kadınlar https://kadinlarsokakta.org/ (html archive, redirects https://arsiv.anarsizm.org/)
Devrimci Anarşist Faaliyet https://anarsistfaaliyet.org/ (domain is expired)
Meydan Gazetesi https://meydan1.org (html archive, redirects https://arsiv.anarsizm.org/)

anarcha

The title of this source is wrong: https://www.anarsisthaberler.net/author/dafdevrimcianaristfederasyon/

It should be "DAF İfşa" which means "Disclosures about DAF".

anarcha

Can you add also this source:

Sokakta Arşiv https://sokaktarsiv.blogspot.com/ : https://sokaktarsiv.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default (2012)

Ungovernable

Hi,

Thanks for clarifying about C4SS, I was not familiar with this website and just wanted to make sure

The About Us page has been updated with your translation:
https://www.anarsisthaberler.net/about-us/

Also updated contact page and the "start your own blog page"

We removed the sources you mentioned, changed name of DAF and added Sokakta Arsiv. Also fixed the link in the menu

Still working on the other issues

anarcha

Ungovernable Thanks for clarifying about C4SS, I was not familiar with this website and just wanted to make sure

Can you add C4SS Turkish to the sources list?

Center for a Stateless Society » Turkish - https://c4ss.org/content/category/turkish/feed

anarcha

Jennifer About the character "ş" in Turkish, is the thing under the "s" the same thing as the french character "ç", can we use the same charter for the S?

Yes you can. It's the same thing and it's called S-cedilla. English pronounce is "sh".

anarcha

@Ungovernable The About Us page has been updated with your translation:
https://www.anarsisthaberler.net/about-us/

Also updated contact page and the "start your own blog page"

We removed the sources you mentioned, changed name of DAF and added Sokakta Arsiv. Also fixed the link in the menu

Still working on the other issues

Thank you so much!

Can you test these feed urls for the sites that are having issues?

Serdar Güneş : https://morss.anarsistkutuphane.org/:proxy:order=last/serdargunes.wordpress.com/feed (original feed: serdargunes.wordpress.com/feed)
Anarcho-Copy Kütüphanesi : https://morss.anarsistkutuphane.org/:proxy:order=last/tr.anarchistlibraries.net/feed (original feed: tr.anarchistlibraries.net/feed)
Anarşist Kütüphane : https://morss.anarsistkutuphane.org/:proxy:order=last/lib.anarcho-copy.org/feed (original feed: lib.anarcho-copy.org/feed)
İtaatsiz : https://morss.anarsistkutuphane.org/:proxy:order=last/itaatsiz.org/?feed=rss2 (original feed: itaatsiz.org/?feed=rss2)
Anarşizm : https://morss.anarsistkutuphane.org/:proxy:order=last/anarsizm.org/feed (original feed: anarsizm.org/feed)

Also a small fix required:

These are the same: https://www.anarsisthaberler.net/author/daffa and https://www.anarsisthaberler.net/author/dafdevrimcianaristfederasyon .
Title of it (https://www.anarsisthaberler.net/author/dafdevrimcianaristfederasyon) should be "DAF İfşa" and permalink of it should be "daf-ifsa". And this should be removed: https://www.anarsisthaberler.net/author/daffa (empty)

Ungovernable

Sorry again for the late reply, took a lot of time to find out why the feeds were failing

I have updated the feeds with the new URLs but full-text-rss is still failing with this error

So after spending some time investigating this issue, I found out this was a bug in the custom config files we are using with full-text-RSS. Sometimes we are unable to scrape some sites so we have to tweak full-text-RSS config for each site and tell the scraper from which HTML element ID to extract the content, or remove some elements when it scrapes the wrong content

Turns out the bug was a line in the global config file of full-text RSS that was stripping HTML elements based on a regex that was not restrictive enough, so the text content was stripped by mistake.

The same global config is used on other platforms too, so this bug could have affected other sources.

I have now fixed it, BUT there are different issues with other feeds, like this one:
https://morss.anarsistkutuphane.org/:proxy:order=last/lib.anarcho-copy.org/feed

Our scrapers are failing with the error [unable to retrieve full-text content]
https://www.anarsisthaberler.net/rss_aggregator/full-text-rss/makefulltextfeed.php?force=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmorss.anarsistkutuphane.org%2F%3Aproxy%3Aorder%3Dlast%2Flib.anarcho-copy.org%2Ffeed&max=5&links=preserve&submit=Create+Feed

and this time it's not a bug with our custom config because the feed also fails with the default config on Full Text RSS website:
http://ftr.fivefilters.net/makefulltextfeed.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmorss.anarsistkutuphane.org%2F%3Aproxy%3Aorder%3Dlast%2Flib.anarcho-copy.org%2Ffeed&max=3

So next, I will check if we can make a custom config for this site and tell the scraper to get a specific HTML element

anarcha

Ungovernable

Thank you!

@Ungovernable Our scrapers are failing with the error [unable to retrieve full-text content]

Does it need to get full-text content? Because the content is just that.

Jennifer

I have updated the logo with the S-cedilla character, but it is still displaying the old image. Could it be a problem with the cache? @Ungovernable pls check this

Ungovernable

Jennifer Yes, it's the cache, I cleared it and now the logo is refreshed

Ungovernable

anarcha But the element and subject order of the sentence in Turkish is different from that in English, so the order of these codes needs to be changed

It should be displayed correctly now, can you confirm?

anarcha

Ungovernable It should be displayed correctly now, can you confirm?

Yes, it displays correctly. Thank you.

Ungovernable

I have added the widgets to display the last Turkish articles in the footer of all of the 9 websites, it should help to bring traffic and visibility

There is also a "tr" link in the header

Jennifer

Is it the correct date format for Turkish (in the newsletter) ?

Son Anarşist Gelişmeler - Eylül 29, 2022

anarcha

Jennifer Is it the correct date format for Turkish (in the newsletter) ?

No, it's not correct. It should be: 29 Eylül 2022

DD Month YYYY | wiki: Date and time notation in Turkey

anarcha

Can you remove these source? (all of these was part of DAF)

Anarşist Kadınlar https://kadinlarsokakta.org/ (html archive, redirects https://arsiv.anarsizm.org/)
Devrimci Anarşist Faaliyet https://anarsistfaaliyet.org/ (domain is expired, spam content)
Meydan Gazetesi https://meydan1.org (html archive, redirects https://arsiv.anarsizm.org/)

Ungovernable

anarcha Can you remove these source? (all of these was part of DAF)

The sources were already removed from the scrapers, no more articles will be posted. Should we also remove the archived articles on the website?

anarcha Special Case for Vicdani Ret Derneği | https://vicdaniret.org/

Vicdani Ret Derneği is a conscientious objection association operating in Turkey, made up of libertarians, anarchists, socialists and anti-war activists.

I think the association's posts should be limited to 5 posts. Other anarchist collectives are not as active as this association, almost the entire homepage is now covered by this association. We must do this so that we do not go out of anarchist scope.

Hmm no easy solution for this one. We had this problem on other platform too where a minority of websites was taking up all the place on the homepage due to posting frequency being too high. Unfortunately, we have not found any solution to reduce the number of posts from some sources.

What do you mean by limiting to 5 posts? No matter what is the limit, our scrapers will always get the last X articles, so all of the articles end up on the website eventually.

We could delete the older posts and keep only the last 5 ones, but it would not change anything for future posts if they continue publishing at the same rate.

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