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anarcha

Many tweets are actually just sharing a link to an article found on the internet, we can't repost that on the platform

Yes you are right, we don't need to add Twitter accounts.

Ungovernable

Hi,

Do you have an email address or any way to contact you privately to send you the username and password for the WordPress admin? I'm not familiar with GnuPG and this forum doesn't have private messages apparently (need to migrate to another forum app eventually)

We started aggregating some websites on the new Turkish platform, but more work is needed because some websites aren't displaying correctly. For example the website Anarcho-copy.org is mostly empty articles with PDF links, so our scrapers can't get the post content to post on WP. We use FullTextRSS by FiveFilters to get the post content and it's not always 100% accurate especially with non-standard websites

anarcha Can we add inactive websites? If we can, I have huge list of sites with RSS feed. I thought we could only add active web sites.

I talked again with the team about the inactive websites, and maybe we can update our scrapers to adapt to inactive websites and scrape older articles. But there is a problem that needs to be solved first: how to build the RSS feed with the content of the entire website?
The RSS feed of an inactive website will almost always have only the last 10 articles. How do we get the other ones?

Since you have experience with RSS feed builders then I figured out we should talk with you about this, maybe you have a solution we didn't think of? Can you do this with Pol?

anarcha

@Ungovernable

Do you have an email address or any way to contact you privately to send you the username and password for the WordPress admin?

Yes, I have. You can post to: anarcha_anarchistforum[at]riseup[dot]net

We started aggregating some websites on the new Turkish platform, but more work is needed because some websites aren't displaying correctly. For example the website Anarcho-copy.org is mostly empty articles with PDF links, so our scrapers can't get the post content to post on WP. We use FullTextRSS by FiveFilters to get the post content and it's not always 100% accurate especially with non-standard websites

I have access to the Anarcho Copy library I will try to fix the error, I will notify the developer. I will also examine the errors made by other sites -for example https://itaatsiz.org-.

I talked again with the team about the inactive websites, and maybe we can update our scrapers to adapt to inactive websites and scrape older articles.

That's cool. I think removing the one-year limit is enough.

The RSS feed of an inactive website will almost always have only the last 10 articles. How do we get the other ones?

You know, that is impossible. I thought your scrapers can do that, for that I asked above.

Since you have experience with RSS feed builders then I figured out we should talk with you about this, maybe you have a solution we didn't think of? Can you do this with Pol?

Pol can't do this, because it parses single web page (like main index page) and generates timed feed from selected paths.

Anarcho_Tech_Team

Hi anarcha,
I have created your WP account and sent the password to your email.

Thank you !!

anarcha

Anarcho_Tech_Team

I'm having trouble logging into the admin area, I sent an email about this. Can you check it?

anarcha

@Ungovernable

We use FullTextRSS by FiveFilters to get the post content and it's not always 100% accurate especially with non-standard websites

Is there a way to prevent FullTextRSS from retrieve all the content for specific site? If this is not possible we can remove Anarcho-Copy from the source list.

Ungovernable

Thanks a lot for your help with the translation, we will update the website tomorrow

anarcha Is there a way to prevent FullTextRSS from retrieve all the content for specific site? If this is not possible we can remove Anarcho-Copy from the source list.

Not currently, but we will add this feature

anarcha Why are personal blogs expressing anarchist ideas not added? Or we need to explain.

We can remove this line for the Turkish version. It was mostly a measure to avoid flooding the English platform with irrelevant websites. The English platform has over 400 websites and we receive a lot of suggestions, some of them were near-empty websites with low-quality content. So the problem is not really if it's just an opinion blog, just need to make sure the content is relevant. But since there is not hundreds of websites on the Turkish platform, it will never be a problem

anarcha I think we should be sensitive about minority languages in Turkey such as Kurdish. A more inclusive term can be used.

Good point and I understand this is a sensitive topic in Turkey. Maybe we should just say that the website "must target the region around Turkey and/or be written in one of the local languages"

anarcha I used the name "Anarchist News" or "Online Anarchist Federation" depending on the context, is that OK? (Because Turkish name is "Anarchist News")

Yes, perfect

anarcha Does the word "entertainment" here mean lodging, accommodation, fun or invitation? Which one?

This part is just some legal blah-blah to get us out of trouble if a lawyer doesn't like the content that is posted on the website. The word "entertainment" is used to say the content should not be taken seriously and is just for "fun" and diverting.

anarcha

The translation of the About Us is complete. It can be accessed from the following upstream etherpad work -the process of adding links remained: https://pad.riseup.net/p/q3sHmmet2Qv5wSLHBito

But before I present the translation, I have some questions to ask:

No opinion blog owned by a single person (Requirements for inclusion)

Why are personal blogs expressing anarchist ideas not added? Or we need explain.

The main language of the website is Turkish (Requirements for inclusion)

I think we should be sensitive about minority languages in Turkey such as Kurdish. A more inclusive term can be used.

Average of at least 4 new posts per year (inactive sources will be disabled) (Requirements for inclusion)

We mentioned above that we will be changing this, so the item needs to be updated.

Online Anarchist Federation

I used the name "Anarchist News" or "Online Anarchist Federation" depending on the context, is that OK? (Because Turkish name is "Anarchist News")

The content provided on this website is for entertainment purposes only (Legal disclaimer)

Does the word "entertainment" here mean lodging, accommodation, fun or invitation? Which one?

anarcha

@Ungovernable

The translation of the config file: https://pad.riseup.net/p/vh4jtCBwhwtiAmH0NxVc

But the element and subject order of the sentence in Turkish is different from that in English, so the order of these codes needs to be changed:

$lang['search_in'] = "Search in";
$lang['articles'] = "articles";
$lang['news_feed_updated'] = "News feed updated every";
$lang['minutes'] = "minutes";
$lang['news_from'] = "The news from";
$lang['anarchist_publishers'] = "anarchist collectives";
$lang['are_posted_here'] = "are automatically posted here";

Can you give the time and number variables? I will translate accordingly. Also, can unused lines be blank?

Ungovernable

anarcha But the element and subject order of the sentence in Turkish is different from that in English, so the order of these codes needs to be changed

It should be displayed correctly now, can you confirm?

anarcha

@Ungovernable Thanks a lot for your help with the translation, we will update the website tomorrow

The translation of About Us page is finished.

The following translations also need to be added:

/contact/

İletişim

Bu merkezi olmayan platform kolektifimiz tarafından kendi kendine yönetilmektedir. Herhangi bir isteğin varsa, lütfen bunu Anarşist Forum'a yaz.

Buradaki bağlantılar ve metinler kullanım kolaylığı sağlamak için harici sitelerden sağlanmıştır. Bu site modere edilmemektedir; özgün makaleler yazmıyoruz, biz bir dağıtım platformuyuz, editoryal bir medya değiliz. Asıl kaynak; gönderiyi düzenlemediği, silmediği veya geri çekmediği sürece makaleler düzenlenemez veya silinemez. Bu nedenle bir makalenin değiştirilmesini veya silinmesini talep etmek mümkün değildir.

/suggest-a-new-source/

Yeni bir kaynak öner

Bu merkezi olmayan platform kolektifimiz tarafından yönetilmektedir.

Forumu kullanarak yeni bir kaynak ekleyebilirsin.

Bu platformun büyütmek için yeni önerilere her zaman açığız!

/start-your-own-blog/

Kendi blogunu başlat

Kendi blogunu başlatmak mı istiyorsun? NoBlogs.org veya BlackBlogs.org gibi platformları kullanmanı öneririz.

Bahsedilen platformlar anti faşist ve cinsiyetçiliğe karşı olan hem de ticari olmayan sunuculardır.

Noblogs.org, 20 yıldır internet alanında mücadele eden Autistici/Inventati kolektifi tarafından yürütülen bir projedir. Bu blog platformu etrafında toplananlar; adaletin, eşit hakların ve özgürlüğün insan yaşamının temel taşları olduğu bir dünya için mücadele eden; ne düşündüğümüz veya sevdiğimiz/nefret ettiğimiz şeylerle ilgilenmek yerine bizi kontrol etmekle ve kim olduğumuzu bilmekle fazlasıyla uğraşan bir topluma karşı savaşan; hayatımızın herhangi bir anının parayla ya da ekonomik olarak değerli şeylerle değiş tokuş edilebileceğini söyleyen hakim ideolojiye karşı direnen, genellikle bizimle aynı düşünceyi ve hedefi paylaşan kimselerden oluşmaktadır.

anarcha

The feed/source list is finished: (etherpad)

WILL BE REMOVED

Anarşist Kadınlar https://kadinlarsokakta.org/ : (ended, reason: part of the Revolutionary Anarchist Federation)
Devrimci Anarşist Faaliyet https://anarsistfaaliyet.org/ : (ended, reason: part of the Revolutionary Anarchist Federation)
Meydan Gazetesi https://meydan1.org : (ended, reason: part of the Revolutionary Anarchist Federation)
Liste Anarşist Faaliyet https://www.lafisyanda.org : (ended, reason: part of the Revolutionary Anarchist Federation)

IN THE RECENT YEAR (ONLINE) 19.09.2021 - 19.09.2022

Anarcho-Copy Amusewiki Yansısı https://lib.anarcho-copy.org/special/index : https://lib.anarcho-copy.org/feed
Anarşist Kütüphane https://tr.anarchistlibraries.net/special/index : https://lib.anarcho-copy.org/feed
Yeryüzü Postası https://www.yeryuzupostasi.org/ : https://www.yeryuzupostasi.org/feed/
Barikat Haber https://barikathaber.org : https://barikathaber.org/feed
Anarşist Dergi | Karala https://karala.org/ : https://karala.org/feed/
Anarchism or Annihilation https://ozgurlugunizinde.blogspot.com/ : https://ozgurlugunizinde.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
Deniz İşçileri Platformu https://deniziscileri.wordpress.com : https://deniziscileri.wordpress.com/feed
ANARŞİ KOLEKTİFİ ANKARA https://ankanarsi.blogspot.com/ : https://ankanarsi.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
Center for a Stateless Society » Turkish https://c4ss.org/content/category/turkish : https://c4ss.org/content/category/turkish/feed
Gün Zileli https://www.gunzileli.net/ : https://www.gunzileli.net/feed
İtaatsiz https://itaatsiz.org/ : https://itaatsiz.org/?feed=rss
CrimethInc. : Türkçe / Turkish (turkce) https://crimethinc.com/languages/t%C3%BCrk%C3%A7e : https://crimethinc.com/feed/tr
Kedistan - Turkish https://www.kedistan.net/category/multilingual/turkce/ : https://www.kedistan.net/category/multilingual/turkce/feed
Nihilist Okumalar https://nihilistokuma.wordpress.com/ : https://nihilistokuma.wordpress.com/feed
IWW İSTANBUL https://iwwist.org/ : https://iwwist.org/feed
Tekoşîna Anarşîst | https://tekosinaanarsist.noblogs.org/ : https://tekosinaanarsist.noblogs.org/feed
VicdaniRet.org — Vicdani Ret https://vicdaniret.org/ : https://vicdaniret.org/?feed=rss2
Yeşil Öfke - Yeşil Öfke https://yesilofke.com/ : https://yesilofke.com/feed
Karaçam https://vahsikaracam.blogspot.com/ : https://pol.anarsistkutuphane.org/feed/1 (via politepol)
Türkçe | libcom.org https://libcom.org/tags/turkce : https://pol.anarsistkutuphane.org/feed/19/feed (via politepol)
gayrneşriyatı | Substack https://gayrnesriyat.substack.com/ : https://gayrnesriyat.substack.com/feed
Erol Anar https://erolanar.org : https://erolanar.org/feed
Serdargunes' Blog – All that Is Solid Melts into Air https://serdargunes.wordpress.com/ : https://serdargunes.wordpress.com/feed
DAF (Devrimci Anarşist Federasyon) İfşa https://dafifsa.wordpress.com/ : https://dafifsa.wordpress.com/feed
Hayvan Özgürlüğü Kütüphanesi https://hayvanozgurluguhareketi.wordpress.com/ : https://hayvanozgurluguhareketi.wordpress.com/feed

Before 19.09.2021

Anarşizm.ORG – https://anarsizm.org/ : https://anarsizm.org/feed (under development)
Hayvan Meselesi https://hayvanmeselesi.noblogs.org/ : https://hayvanmeselesi.noblogs.org/feed

2020

EKO ANARŞİZM – Doğaya Özgürlük https://ecologicalnanarcy.wordpress.com/ : https://ecologicalnanarcy.wordpress.com/feed
Yeryüzüne Özgürlük! http://yeryuzuneozgurluk.blogspot.com/ : http://yeryuzuneozgurluk.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
Anarşizm arşivleri | TUİÇ Akademi https://www.tuicakademi.org/etiket/anarsizm/ : https://www.tuicakademi.org/etiket/anarsizm/feed
Mulungu Kitap Kolektifi https://mulungukitap.noblogs.org/ : https://mulungukitap.noblogs.org/feed
ankara infoshop https://ankarainfoshop.noblogs.org/ : https://ankarainfoshop.noblogs.org/feed/
Eskişehir Anarşi İnisiyatifi https://eskisehiranarsi.noblogs.org/ : https://eskisehiranarsi.noblogs.org/feed

2019

Ne Yapmalı? https://neyapmali.noblogs.org/post/2016/11/02/ne-yapmali/ : https://neyapmali.noblogs.org/feed

2017

infiAl | gathering & distro! https://infial.noblogs.org/ : https://infial.noblogs.org/feed
Türkçe | Attaque https://attaque.noblogs.org/post/category/turkce/ : https://attaque.noblogs.org/post/category/turkce/feed
bukalemun https://korbukalemun.blogspot.com/ : https://korbukalemun.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
REZNOV | Bireycilik ve Nihilizme Doğru https://reznov.noblogs.org/ : https://reznov.noblogs.org/feed

2016

Potlaç Blog https://isyananarsi.blogspot.com/ : https://isyananarsi.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

2015

Kimim Ben https://hayattabirleri.blogspot.com/ : https://hayattabirleri.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

2014

servetdusmani | Özgürlükçü ve Komünist Tartışma Platformu https://servetdusmani.wordpress.com/ : https://servetdusmani.wordpress.com/feed
Toplumsal Bunalım Rehberi https://mullicedo.blogspot.com/ : https://mullicedo.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
Uyumsuzlar Fraksiyonu - Kara İsyan https://karaisyan.blogspot.com/ : https://karaisyan.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
Sahara's punchnik https://saharas-punchnik.blogspot.com/ : https://saharas-punchnik.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
ANARKOTUBE https://anarkotube.blogspot.com/ : https://anarkotube.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

2012

Bursa Anarşist Karnaval https://bursa-anarsistkarnaval.blogspot.com : https://bursa-anarsistkarnaval.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

2011

ecotopianetwork https://ecotopianetwork.wordpress.com/ : https://ecotopianetwork.wordpress.com/feed
katilcola https://katilcola.wordpress.com/ : https://katilcola.wordpress.com/feed
Yes to Life – Yaşama Evet https://yasamaevet.noblogs.org/ : https://yasamaevet.noblogs.org/?feed=rss2
QIJIKA REŞ https://qijikares.blogspot.com/ : https://qijikares.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

2010

Çeviri Kolektif https://cevirikolektifi.blogspot.com/ : https://cevirikolektifi.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

2009

SOKAKTA BİR HAYALET https://sokaktabirhayalet.blogspot.com/ : https://sokaktabirhayalet.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
Çeviri Eylem / Traduction Act https://traductionact.wordpress.com/ : https://traductionact.wordpress.com/feed

Ungovernable

Hi, sorry for the late reply, have been busy helping the team to fix some issues with the newsletter

what has been done so far:

navigation menu translated
PHP language config file updated
all sources added, including inactive ones
Turkish newsletter

in progress:

Solution to disable FullTextRSS for specific sources
Fix issues with some sources
Update articles with your translation ( @Jennifer is on it)
Modify the code to support changing the order of words for the issues you reported in the PHP lang config
Remove 10 posts limit for old sources

Our scrapers are still in the process of getting the full text of the articles from the sources.

Here is a link to the dashboard of our scrapers, it helps the team to understand what's going on in the backend. We can see the last time feeds were checked, feeds that have failed to be imported, the scraping frequency which is determined by the number of recent posts, and other information useful for debugging.
https://cron.anarsisthaberler.net/get_rss.php?limit=50

You can also force execute a specific feed and see what's happening, for example if you want to know why a post is missing from Libcom it says the article wasn't scraped because "skipped, post content too short (173 chars)"
https://cron.anarsisthaberler.net/get_rss.php?force=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpol.anarsistkutuphane.org%2Ffeed%2F19%2Ffeed

anarcha The site header (header_anarsisthaberler.net.png) needs a little change.

The current header is "Anarsist Haberler".
But it's wrong, it should be: "Anarşist Haberler".

The Turkish character "ş / Ş" is missing.

@Jennifer is the one in charge of designing the logos, and if I remember correctly the font we are using doesn't support this special character. But maybe we can just do some photoshop magic.

anarcha Center for a Stateless Society » Turkish https://c4ss.org/content/category/turkish

I'm not sure about this source, I have to do more digging but they define themselves with "market anarchism" which is a term often used by anarcho-capitalists and voluntaryism.

anarcha

The site header (header_anarsisthaberler.net.png) needs a little change.

The current header is "Anarsist Haberler".
But it's wrong, it should be: "Anarşist Haberler".

The Turkish character "ş / Ş" is missing.

anarcha

The "TİŞÖRTLER"/T-SHIRTS button needs a change. This button is linked to /about-us but tittle is not "About Us". It should be "Hakkımızda".

Ungovernable

Thanks!

Jennifer

About the character "ş" in Turkish, is the thing under the "s" the same thing as the french character "ç", can we use the same charter for the S?

Ungovernable @Jennifer is the one in charge of designing the logos, and if I remember correctly the font we are using doesn't support this special character. But maybe we can just do some photoshop magic.

Yup, our font can't render this character

anarcha

@Ungovernable I'm not sure about this source, I have to do more digging but they define themselves with "market anarchism" which is a term often used by anarcho-capitalists and voluntaryism.

They describe themselves as "left market anarchist", not "market anarchist or anarcho-capitalist". Their slogan is "Markets, not capitalism". They are against capitalism, not the market, they support the left market theory from an anarchist perspective. And C4SS is already available in Anarchist Federation.

Also, their articles are already available in Anarchist Library Turkish: https://tr.anarchistlibraries.net/category/topic/sol-piyasa-anarsizmi (Left Market Anarchism)

So C4SS needs to be added.

anarcha

The sites of the organizations belonging to DAF are now in html only archive mode on https://arsiv.anarsizm.org, and most of the domainsare expired and some of under spam content. For this reason, it will not be correct to add these sites.

Example: https://www.anarsisthaberler.net/author/devrimcianaristfaaliyet/ all of these text are spam.

You should remove:

Anarşist Kadınlar https://kadinlarsokakta.org/ (html archive, redirects https://arsiv.anarsizm.org/)
Devrimci Anarşist Faaliyet https://anarsistfaaliyet.org/ (domain is expired)
Meydan Gazetesi https://meydan1.org (html archive, redirects https://arsiv.anarsizm.org/)

anarcha

The title of this source is wrong: https://www.anarsisthaberler.net/author/dafdevrimcianaristfederasyon/

It should be "DAF İfşa" which means "Disclosures about DAF".

anarcha

Can you add also this source:

Sokakta Arşiv https://sokaktarsiv.blogspot.com/ : https://sokaktarsiv.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default (2012)

Ungovernable

Hi,

Thanks for clarifying about C4SS, I was not familiar with this website and just wanted to make sure

The About Us page has been updated with your translation:
https://www.anarsisthaberler.net/about-us/

Also updated contact page and the "start your own blog page"

We removed the sources you mentioned, changed name of DAF and added Sokakta Arsiv. Also fixed the link in the menu

Still working on the other issues

anarcha

Ungovernable Thanks for clarifying about C4SS, I was not familiar with this website and just wanted to make sure

Can you add C4SS Turkish to the sources list?

Center for a Stateless Society » Turkish - https://c4ss.org/content/category/turkish/feed

anarcha

Jennifer About the character "ş" in Turkish, is the thing under the "s" the same thing as the french character "ç", can we use the same charter for the S?

Yes you can. It's the same thing and it's called S-cedilla. English pronounce is "sh".

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